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Posted By: italker On: 25 Jun 2012 At: 9:44pm
Here is an additional comment I’ve received and I’d agree it adds some light and a bit more balance to my blog article.
“As a matter of record, the CWW report did after all flag up in its 2001 report a reappraisal of ‘central church’ structures (See Sections C1 and C2 of the CWW report). And between 2001 and 2003 the Assembly Council under Helen McLeod tried to carry forward the spirit of CWW with the Council’s emphasis on spirituality and freeing up the eldership etc. So in fact the church at large had two full years to really absorb and take on board CWW… that it failed to do so was not the fault of the Assembly Council who were doing pretty well at taking some of the themes forward.
It was at the 2003 Assembly (ie 2 years after CWW reported) that the council flagged up an intention to turn its attention to the CWW perspectives on the central structures. During the debate at Assembly in 2003 Norman Shanks proposed that the Council bring forward firm proposals to the 2004 Assembly. The Assembly supported Norman in this. But this had not been the Council’s original plan.
The failure to pick up on the energy and vision of CWW was not really the fault of the restructuring process which only really began in 2004 (and nor of the Assembly Council). So to that extent I disagree with you blog.
With hindsight I think that part of the failure was that we (the Special Commission) did not adequately think through a process for implementation. (Do I recall you arguing for this at the time? If you did, then I now agree with you!). Nor did we have any clear vision (as I recall it) of how CWW would win hearts and minds.
But the Assembly Council’s restructuring plans (3 years after CWW) are not the main problem. The main problem is that we did not find a way as a Special Commission of ensuring that the amazing vision that is CWW was rolled out…
But – all that said – I think that CWW has captured the imagination more than we might think. Without CWW there would have been no Aviemore events, no Ingliston, no Roll Away the Stone and Heart and Soul, no Parish Development Fund, no Emerging Ministries Fund etc etc and nothing of the genuine spirit of ‘yes we can’ in so many congregations of the kirk.
Posted By: David Denniston On: 25 Jun 2012 At: 4:59pm
Hi Albert, Good to see you at St C’s yesterday!! Have sent you an email to your blueyonder address in response to this blog. Did not wish to publish it all here in public!! Hope that email address is still active?!?
Posted By: Helmut On: 24 Jun 2012 At: 10:28am
“Ecclesiastical deck chair re-arranging” - I like that one! By our standards you are having a rather mild case of it. This constant urge to restructure does hinder so many things in its tracks. We should have learnt by now that even given the best of intentions behind it, the present spell of reshuffling - and reshuffling again! - is so very counterproductive! Alas - it seems to be a hallmark of our times.
Posted By: John Gilmour On: 23 Jun 2012 At: 11:52am
And a nation based on good strong Faith
Posted By: italker On: 25 Jun 2012 At: 9:51pm
I’d like to add that perhaps we didn’t take enough time to let the CWW mindset change the church. The restructuring in itself was never going to produce what is required for renewal. No doubt structures can help.
The structure should be like the scaffolding that helps us put up the building. It is not the building. Too often we see the structures as the building.